Comments on: FAW #23: David Heinemeier Hansson of 37 Signals http://www.grid7.com/archives/138_faw-23-david-heinemeier-hansson-of-37-signals.html Build something. BIGGER. Fri, 21 Nov 2008 00:22:01 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0 by: Michael http://www.grid7.com/archives/138_faw-23-david-heinemeier-hansson-of-37-signals.html#comment-8194 Thu, 12 Jul 2007 13:28:06 +0000 http://www.grid7.com/archives/138_faw-23-david-heinemeier-hansson-of-37-signals.html#comment-8194 Dave G, why don't you try Ruby yourself and check if you will be thinking the same after two weeks with it? You are gonna hate that bloat JEE development is. Just because other came up to make it much simpler. Dave G, why don’t you try Ruby yourself and check if you will be thinking the same after two weeks with it? You are gonna hate that bloat JEE development is. Just because other came up to make it much simpler.

]]> by: Sean Tierney http://www.grid7.com/archives/138_faw-23-david-heinemeier-hansson-of-37-signals.html#comment-8151 Tue, 10 Jul 2007 23:04:07 +0000 http://www.grid7.com/archives/138_faw-23-david-heinemeier-hansson-of-37-signals.html#comment-8151 Dave, Ruby and Python are two relatively equivalent languages - both track neck and neck on Google trends: http://google.com/trends?q=python%2C+ruby&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0 Though they may not have the track record of established languages like Java and C#, you are kidding yourself if you don't think they are important. These are bottled productivity and true OO languages and with frameworks like Rails and Django, they allow small teams to do big things. The entire JumpBox platform is built using RoR and and allows us to package any linux application as a virtual appliance. We have 3 engineers and could not possibly have delivered this technology in the short time and given the small dev team without using a powerful framework like RoR. Is monster.com really the best barometer for judging what skills are important? Consider that most monster postings are from large corporations that embrace the mature, crusty technologies that are have been around but are stagnant. Re-run your job search in a more progressive forum and i think you'll find a different result. I just ran it on the Chicago Craigslist and it returned 45 results: http://chicago.craigslist.org/search/jjj?query=ruby sean Dave, Ruby and Python are two relatively equivalent languages - both track neck and neck on Google trends:
http://google.com/trends?q=python%2C+ruby&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0

Though they may not have the track record of established languages like Java and C#, you are kidding yourself if you don’t think they are important. These are bottled productivity and true OO languages and with frameworks like Rails and Django, they allow small teams to do big things. The entire JumpBox platform is built using RoR and and allows us to package any linux application as a virtual appliance. We have 3 engineers and could not possibly have delivered this technology in the short time and given the small dev team without using a powerful framework like RoR.

Is monster.com really the best barometer for judging what skills are important? Consider that most monster postings are from large corporations that embrace the mature, crusty technologies that are have been around but are stagnant. Re-run your job search in a more progressive forum and i think you’ll find a different result. I just ran it on the Chicago Craigslist and it returned 45 results:
http://chicago.craigslist.org/search/jjj?query=ruby

sean

]]> by: DaveG http://www.grid7.com/archives/138_faw-23-david-heinemeier-hansson-of-37-signals.html#comment-8149 Tue, 10 Jul 2007 21:59:33 +0000 http://www.grid7.com/archives/138_faw-23-david-heinemeier-hansson-of-37-signals.html#comment-8149 You should call this article "FAWN 23" instead of "FAW 23." 37Signals are good at hype, at making their creations seem much more popular and widely used than they actually are. I just searched "rails" on monster.com for the Chicago area, and got two lousy hits. "Ruby" produced 6. Self-important people like David Heinemeier Hansson, with their "manifestos" and all, get really tiring after a while. You should call this article “FAWN 23″ instead of “FAW 23.” 37Signals are good at hype, at making their creations seem much more popular and widely used than they actually are. I just searched “rails” on monster.com for the Chicago area, and got two lousy hits. “Ruby” produced 6.

Self-important people like David Heinemeier Hansson, with their “manifestos” and all, get really tiring after a while.

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